Kirilica v zapadno-slovianskich školach?

Znanie kirilicy sred mladych ľudi jest dramatično nizke. Pytanie či učenie alfabetu kirilicy v školach bude korisne. To pytanie bylo dane na facebooku i tut možete prečitať niektore odgovory (mnogo iz nich jest v jezyku anglijskim ale ne budu ich prekladať) a pytanie bylo: "Do children at Polish, Czech or Slovak schools also learn Cyrillic alphabet?"

👤 If they do not choose to learn Russian, they do not have a real reason. West Slavic languages are not written in the Cyrilic alphabet.

👤 You’re kidding? 😀When there was the Soviet Union they had to learn Russian. I always joke that in my primary school some pupils were learning Russian. Italy, communist city, early ‘80s. I learnt English, but I was already very fascinated by Russian. Which should have nothing to do with politics, like nowadays

👤 My uneducated guess as a bulgarian is that it's mirrored to here. They'd only be learning it if they select a foreign language using it(and I assume that would be russian as I highly doubt many schools in Slovakia teach Macedonian or Bulgarian), not just or the sake of learning it abstractly as an alphabet. Here we don't learn the Latin alphabet until we have to learn a foreign language. That would be pretty much anything else other than Russian means learning Latin. The most popular choices are(not in order) English, French, German and Russian. For anything else like Italian or Spanish you'd need to sign the kid in a specific school with teachers of that language. And such are not available outside the big cities at all.

👤 Why would you need to learn an archaic alphabet? It’s not the alphabet of the country, so why would you need to know it.

👤 In Serbia we are lucky to use both alphabets to write our language

👤 In Slovenia - not Slovakia we used to learn cyrilic too. But just for one year in 5th grade. Because we were together i Yougoslavia with nations that use cyrilic - Serbs. But I forgot all I learned. But since Yugoslavia fell apart mkre than 30 years ago, not anymore.

👤 Back when I was in school in Poland, we totally learned the Cyrillic alphabet ,it was just part of our mandatory Russian classes. Honestly, it was completely normal back then. Plus, ever since I was a kid, I had not only Polish books at home but also Russian books and magazines, so we got used to Cyrillic pretty early on.

👤 No. Only those who want to learn Russian.

👤 No, unless they study the respective foreign language.

👤 I learned Cyrillic and Latin alphabets simultaneously. They are nearly the same. Greek and Coptic too.

👤 Only if they learn foreign language written with cyryllics. Or some letters if they are curious and ask their Ukrainian classmates to show them 🙂

👤 No, it is only taught as a part of learning languages that use Cyrilic (mostly Russian). Specifically in the Czech Republic - some secondary schools teach Russian (as an optional language), students of Russial learn the Russian Cyrilic alphabet of course. Otherwise - no.

👤 No. This alphabet is used in orthodox countries

👤 why should we 😭

👤 Polish kids don't do that.

👤 Why would we learn cyrillic?

👤 In Hungary, learning Russian language was mandatory in school until 1989. We learnt cyrillic letters only on those classes. Was it similar in other countries, like Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania? Just asking...

👤 Czechia here. I was born shortly before revolution, so no Russian. But we had it voluntary. And our teacher told us the great thing: "At least learn to read cyrillic, when you will be in a foreign country (using it), you will be able to read". I learned Russian cyrillic, to hand write. Later I learned Serbian and hand writing (it's more different). I've never been in Russia, but I travel a lot to Balkan, it's really useful. Huge part of Europe is using cyrillic, just there are some extra letters for every language, you can learn it easily when you need. It's part of literacy for Europeans.

👤 The Polish language uses Latin script so the answer is no. When I was in high school in 90. there was an option to choose a second foreign language to learn and it was possible to choose Russian, but almost no one wanted to learn it and the course has not even started.

👤 Polish no - except some cases, where they have Russian in high school (unpopular, also since 2022 some schools removed Russian classes due to geopolitical situation)

👤 Not anymore!!! We were forced to learn russian before 1989, I mean everybody had russiian lessons at school. We rather hated that.

👤 Members of Slovak Greek-Catholic Church, Ruthenian Greek-Catholic Church, Polish Orthodox Church and Orthodox Church in Czech and Slovak Lands might know Cyrillic since Church Slavonic is in use in their churches.

👤 No, in Poland children don't learn Cyrillic , and almost nobody know it.

👤 Why should they? 🤔

👤 Until 1989 it was obligatory to learn Russian in Poland, but then we stopped being dependent on the USSR and nobody wants to learn it. Well, there are still a few schools in Poland where they teach Russian, Belarusian or Ukrainian, but the number is shrinking. In 2024, 0.6% of students took the Russian exam at the end of high school.

👤 That's like asking if we learn Japanese alphabet. Why would we? If you study a language that uses Cyrilic, then sure, you'd learn the alpabet, but otherwise - what for?

👤 First, there is no need of learning Cyrillic in a country that uses a language written in Latin. Second, I dont get the hate towards the Russian, which is the language of the most famous literary pieces in the world, if you do hate the country, dont hate the language. Thirdly, Cyrillic is not Russian, but also Macedonian, Serbian, Bosnian, Bulgarian, Belarusian, Ukrainian... The hate comments are useless in terms of the original post and its purpose

👤 I am from Poland. I have learnt it. I had Russian at school. I think they should learn it. Before in ex- Jugoslavia all people learnt both alphabets.

👤 We were once forced to do it 😅I had to learn Russian at school ( born 1982). Can absolutely nothing. No need to

👤 In Czechia no. Only when they learn Russian (teached as an option for second foreign language, many children choose different language).

👤 Yesterday I taught my high school students Cyrillic in class, I always do this when we study the topic "First Slavic states", but in fact it is not in the high school curriculum. It's a pity, because then they go to Bulgaria, for example, and the young people are not able to read the signs, and yet many words sound either identical to Polish, or similar...

👤 Not sure why most of these comments associate Cyrillic with Russian, when there are a half dozen other Slavic languages that use Cyrillic, as well as other languages, mostly in the RF.

👤 In polish only when there's a Russian language lessons 😛

👤 In forme Yugoslavia, Slovenians and Croatians learned also cyrillic, although it's not used in their language, because serbians use cyrillic writing. Helped me a lot when I had to learn russian later, for work purposes.

👤 We don't, unless we learn Russian as a foreign language, which isn't common in Poland nowadays.

👤 Why? No point

👤 I learned it by myself. I can't imagine I don't know how to read it. Used it so much in my life

👤 First of all we don't learn in Poland Czech and Slovak alphabet which could easily enhance understanding of our closely related languages.

👤 During the socialism it was obliged to learn Russian. We started from 5th year of the basic school.

👤 Tylko jeśli chcą. W szkole średniej można wybrać język rosyjski jako drugi język obcy do nauki.

👤 Why would they? Do they learn the Greek or Arabic alphabet? Triple no

👤 Why would they 🤦‍♀️

👤 Only as a part of learning Russian language, if you learn Russian. We have nothing common with east orthodox countries. Czech Latin alphabet has all Czech sounds: ěščřžýáíéů. Standard European sounds (žš are in French, č is in English, for example) with exception of ř. But even ř is at some dialects of Celtic languages, or some regional American r are similar to ř.

👤 No, only if they learn Russian, which is not compulsory.

👤 In socialism we had to learn Russian, so yes we did. Now it is voluntary.

👤 If you mean primary education obviously not (why should they?). In secondary education students learn two foreign languages and sometimes (depending on availabity if teachers) one of them could be Russian (a very rare choice) which of course involves learning Russian version of cyrylic script).

👤 Czechoslovakia: they did until 1989 when learning this (from then practical point of view) useless and (from the currect point of view) abominable language was compulsory and there wasn´t a choice ... (although the language as linguistic phenomenon as such is not guilty) .....

👤 In Poland it was obligatory till 1991 or 1992.

👤 No at present times. Just if they choose Russian as a second language. I dont know about Poland, but in Czechoslovakia during comunist times we all Has to learn Russian and azbuka.

👤 No, unless they learn Russian.

👤 How come that nobody here seems to know that the Rusyns in Eastern Slovakia use the cyrillic alphabet, that traffic signs are bilingual and bialphabetical, that Presov's Duchnovic theatre prints cyrillic programs? And of course, kids learn to write in their letters in school.

👤 Why would they do that? Only those who want to have an easy life and have chosen Russian as a second foreign language.

👤 Only if you have Russian as your second foregin languege in school

👤 Unfortunately not, although I think it would be useful and open the way to related Slavic languages. I'm from Czech republic.

👤 No they don't, why should they?

👤 Used to...in komunist era

👤 And if you don't, the Cyrillic is one of the official alphabets of EU, second most used in Europe and Northern Greece so you have to learn it to survive(JOKE ;)) By the way, our alphabet was russified by the communist after we were occupied by the Soviet. It was slightly different. They removed 2 letters Ѣ (yat - changing how it sound "E" or "IA" depending of the regional dialects or is it singular or plural in the official language), and Ѫ(big yus - kind of nassal sound) and change the way we were writing Я - old one was looking like Ꙗ.

👤 We can think that it can be useful to linguists who want to compare the various languages, we also find this phenomenon between Urdu and Hindi which are actually the same language but with two completely different alphabets, one Arabic, one Hindu (also for confessional reasons).

👤 When I took a few Russian lessons at the Institute of Oriental Languages in Paris about thirty years ago (more than that), we had fun writing French with Cyrillic characters, it was quite funny. Reading Slovenian for example with Cyrillic characters must be quite fun, Polish even more so. At the same time, I studied Romanian, which is the only Romance language that used Cyrillic characters in its old form, rather adapted to Slavic languages.

👤 Only if we learn Russian. But... Not always. I was a Russian teacher in a high school for a while. In the third class students couldn't write because they didn't know the alphabet, instead of the fact they were learning Russian for two years...

👤 When I went to school, we were the first (or the second 🤔) year that didn't learn Cyrillic anymore. The kids before us did. But I learned it later for myself, just for fun. It comes in handy sometimes.

👤 Sure, and not only there. It is everywhere in the world. If you learn russian language, you automatically learn Cyrillic azbuka. You definitelly don't learn russian in latin alphabet. And it is the same also in slovak, czech or polish schools.

👤 We did... Russian used to be mandatory in polish schools . Mandatory Russian language was not eliminated at a single point in time, but rather gradually reduced and replaced with other languages, primarily English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish, starting in the early 1990s. This change occurred after the fall of communism in Poland.

👤 No, why should they😂? I like the order of letters like in Latin alphabet 🥰

👤 Nppe

👤 Poland? Only when the children learn Russian. Which they usually don't since the collapse of Soviet Bloc. Nevertheless a large number of Ukrainian emigrees and refugees may have special lessons of Ukrainian.

👤 It seems they could have been fed up with Russian and Cyrillic a bit, due to hegemony from. Cold war era? Something how Croats are fed up with Serbs and anything related including Cyrillic script from Yugoslavia era. And then there is that Easter - Wrstern Christianity animosity

👤 Czech yes i had it at schol 1996. i am from czech

👤 Why? For God's sake...

👤 In Poland during socialistic regime we had russian language as obligatory subject. Two years in elementary school and four years in high school.

👤 Most schools have German or Russian as a choice of second language. Choosing Russian you have to learn Cyrillic lol

👤 Not alphabet but languages it’s used in.


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